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Govt. push for 'green' transportation may end up costing us more

GasBuddy Blog -- We all know which road is 'paved with good intentions'.

That's the road governments on both sides of the Atlantic eagerly pursue; believing that consumers don't know what's best for them and therefore they should be pushed and prodded into buying more expensive vehicles in the name of fuel efficiency and 'clean energy'.

Hybridcars.com took a look at this issue from the British perspective and, ironically, you'll find that motorists here and in the U.K. share nearly identical problems when it comes to government overstepping its bounds to engineer consumer behavior and automobile purchases and its impact on roads and highway funding.

A study by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) commissioned by the UK's...

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Submitted Jun 02, 2012 By: PD

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tailpipeFL All-Star Author Tampa Posts:764 Points:45,165 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 3:52:26 PM Ignore tailpipeFL Report Abuse Truth is lighter cars leave a "smaller footprint" on the roads which are generally poorly maintained because of poor govt management.Do they think they should get more money because they are entitled? What's wrong with this picture?
tailpipeFL All-Star Author Tampa Posts:764 Points:45,165 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 3:40:23 PM Ignore tailpipeFL Report Abuse Be advised it's not a free ride when the govt has a middle finger on any of our affairs,or were you thinking in more realistic terms?
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tutaw Champion Author Kentucky Posts:3,623 Points:845,670 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 6:30:30 PM Ignore tutaw Report Abuse would not surprise me
RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,389 Points:2,350,800 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 4:32:05 PM Ignore RBob Report Abuse I guess it all depends on your perspective.
Colts13 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,591 Points:551,135 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 3:07:34 PM Ignore Colts13 Report Abuse Ok.
abk Champion Author Utah Posts:1,800 Points:658,825 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 2:22:29 PM Ignore abk Report Abuse Those who have the data are politicians, people picked by popularity. Not because they're smart and have any horse sense on how to interpret that data.
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:8,222 Points:1,243,395 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 2:01:53 PM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse Those who have the data, and who understand what it means, want to push for just about anything that will decrease the oil usage. Destroying OPEC and other oil producers and oil refiners ability to destroy our economy is a matter of national security. More drilling will not solve the problem, reducing our demand will.
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,037 Points:1,391,780 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:58:59 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse Old article.
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divebomber Champion Author Nebraska Posts:6,093 Points:1,815,200 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:55:11 PM Ignore divebomber Report Abuse REALLY, REALLY OLD NEWS, COME ON PD, DO YOUR JOB OR GIVE IT UP!
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Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,755 Points:1,779,390 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:45:34 PM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse I'm confused. In our litiginous society, how can a GUMMINT made up of mostly lawyers decide what is BEST in ANY area outside the EXISTING LAWS? MEDICINE? How many DOCTORSaided in the decisions? FOOD? ROAD BUILDING? There have been NO significant improvements since IKE, and damn little maintenance. The list goes on. A government OF the people needs to consist of a good MIXTURE of folks from ALL areas of life, rich AND POOR, healthy AND SICK, politicians and SMART FOLKS. Those that AGREE, should MAKE SURE that you get out and VOTE come November. Those that don't, well you can BLAME YOURSELVES for your problems.
DeeLA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,833 Points:1,368,255 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:45:06 PM Ignore DeeLA Report Abuse This article is three days old.
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Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,090 Points:1,771,120 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:39:14 PM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse Old. Maybe the "green" is due to mold on poor products.
cssco Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,342 Points:1,754,455 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:37:21 PM Ignore cssco Report Abuse If a study by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) works well for the Brits the very least we could do would be to appoint a Special Blue Ribbon Commission (SBRC) to study our problem. After all, if three letter acronyms work for them then a four letter acronym would better for us because we are better. Problem solved, next problem, please.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,088 Points:2,348,435 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:36:36 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse If 'green' transportation is so good, a government taxpayer subsidy is Not necessary and the market will find a way for it's development and sale. If green vehicles are so good, there will be a consumer demand for green transportation Not government demanding it. A better 'green' transportation alternative to vehicles is mass transit. Move people in and out of the large population cities with mass transit: buses, local trains, commuter trains and high speed rail to the bedroom communities located far from the work areas. Save the green vehicles for other use and reduce wear and tear on the ever expanding highways, freeways, tollways and bridges. And, there's always the personal car pool with a group of people. I will drive my current vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, used, EV, Inbred, diesel, hydrogen, alternative fuel, CNG, concept or anything else. My current vehicle was paid for many years ago and works just fine! Why have another car payment in 'coming out of the closet' Barry's very bad and lousy economy. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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Wes1972 All-Star Author California Posts:650 Points:321,610 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:25:43 PM Ignore Wes1972 Report Abuse We have a out of control govt borrowing 40% of their spending and deeply in debt. They think the priority is forcing some expensive technology on us that is nowhere near cost effective! What is wrong with these clueless idiots? Why do people keep electing them?
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quattro02 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,517 Points:192,445 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:22:51 PM Ignore quattro02 Report Abuse That seems to be the case for anything new. The government subsidizes the program until it becomes self-sufficient and then lets it live on its own. Except for big oil. The subsidies continue long past their need.
gumbyrex Champion Author Fresno Posts:3,311 Points:761,990 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:22:06 PM Ignore gumbyrex Report Abuse Cut spending and subsidies rather than create more taxes. Stop tax free payments to those who are able to work, but choose not to because they can make more staying home. Welfare should be workfare. Redistribution of money to those who would rather play video games, watch soap operas, and check their Facebook and Twitter accounts all day, creates a never ending life style past on to the next generation. With the economy as bad as it is, many governmental agencies could benefit from workfare employees.
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Clayton2000 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,424 Points:493,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:16:49 PM Ignore Clayton2000 Report Abuse Nothing new
aarrrt Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,289 Points:1,655,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:16:38 PM Ignore aarrrt Report Abuse Of course it will. Too much money being wasted on special interest groups and illegal immigrants. It is a joke. A sad joke.
Lizzylou Champion Author Stockton Posts:8,818 Points:2,357,285 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:15:27 PM Ignore Lizzylou Report Abuse JUST WHAT WE DON'T NEED!!!
jpj23 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,720 Points:1,101,650 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:12:18 PM Ignore jpj23 Report Abuse Why is this particularly shocking "news"? If roads and bridges are maintained through fuel taxes why is it a surprise that there will be a reckoning when most of the country switches to using far less fuel? Did someone flunk Econ 101?
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