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In Sandy's aftermath some refineries wait for electricity

GasBuddy Blog -- Sandy's aftermath is still being felt and its economic impact is still being tallied. Some entire towns remain under water but one thing remains certain; gasoline prices in some parts of the northeast will be going up.

It's not 'price gouging'. Don't blame the retailers. Don't blame politicians. Don't blame Wall Street hedge funds. Don't blame OPEC.

It's all boils down to supply and demand and in the northeast, gasoline supply, unfortunately, has tightened. East Coast refineries had been running at 81.8 percent of capacity (well below the national rate: 87.2 percent) in the week before Sandy reached New Jersey and just before its arrival, refineries in NJ, DE, MD and PA wisely shut down for safety precautions. Unfortunately...


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Submitted Oct 31, 2012 By: PD
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MinnesotaDJ
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 6:01:40 PM

This is the ONE time someone needs to get involved!!! Whatever happened to the investigations into the refinery(s) that said they were closed and were not?
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Union are not much good as they scare help away.
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 3:12:54 PM

ok
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Bush's fault...again.
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ok
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 6:09:27 AM

This should be a priority.
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 3:30:05 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:58:00 AM

Hmmmm
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tomok
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 5:17:12 AM

In Sandy's aftermath some refineries wait for electricity - less fuel supply, more fuel demand, higher fuel prices, consumer pays more everytime.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII!
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bston
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 1:08:42 AM

Sadly it might be a bit of a wait for some of those people.
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:17:04 AM

Hopefully soon
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:07:01 AM

So are we!
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boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:04:47 AM

Allot of people are waiting for electricity.
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:03:45 AM

A bad situation.
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dpt
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:59:37 PM

I mean DEMAND side. Can't seem to edit a blog reply, for some reason.
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dpt
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:58:45 PM

I'd suspect traffic volumes are down, too. That would help the supply side.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:57:51 PM

Many of us are still waiting for electricity also.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:57:17 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:54:56 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:54:38 PM

Let's get going
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:44:19 PM

Does anyone know how much fuel the average generator burns per day? Gotta figure a lot of people are driving to the gas station that has electricity in order to fill up their 5-gallon containers.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:42:50 PM

Look for prices to go up.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:42:12 PM

It's price gouging.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:41:37 PM

That seems like a good idea, @DEG, but the problem is that there are too many grades of fuel on the market, in order to accommodate all of the different requirements of all 50 states.

What this country needs is one grade of fuel that all 50 states can agree on, not the "boutique fuel" setup we currently have. Why can't everyone have the same high quality fuel that California requires? Would it really be much more expensive if every refinery could make it and every state could buy it?
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:39:12 PM

The prices will probably suffer
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:37:29 PM

Price of gas didn't even drop where I live.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:37:11 PM

Unfortunately, @jalan25, the strategic petroleum reserve consists of crude oil. We have plenty of crude supply. What isn't working right now in the northeast are the refineries that make gas, diesel, fuel oil, etc out of that crude.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:35:32 PM

scary stuff
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:34:29 PM

Tomorrow should bring a better outlook.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:29:31 PM

okay
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:27:00 PM

Wow! It makes no sense at all that these refineries don't have at least part of their campuses on backup power. It is apparent that they are huge power users, so having the whole refinery on back up power may not be feasible; but I am sure that a couple of super-sized diesel generators could enable the refinery to operate at least partially to make, let's say - gasoline? Or maybe they are just looking for an excuse to raise prices?
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:26:24 PM

usage is down as without electricity obne cannot pump gas
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:23:58 PM

we'll see..
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:18:04 PM


Interesting. The very next article in the current list reports that “Sandy Helps Push Gasoline Prices Lower” due to decline in demand. Which is it, higher or lower? I’ll guess a little of both depending on what individual stations decide to do.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:15:47 PM

Here go the prices.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:14:24 PM

Now the speculators are getting spun up.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:13:17 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:12:32 PM

Hmmmmmm...
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:10:45 PM

Do it right
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:10:44 PM

for the most part, we here in central pa were very lucky to have escaped the wrath of sandy.

i fuelled up early friday morning at the local sheetz, only took 6 gallons. only people i saw acting crazy were out of staters.

limited my driving, most others local appeared 2 also.

not gas related, but did anyone else noticed the run on water and groceries. hope it was a learning experience.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:08:49 PM

and i bet they will take their time getting them back on line
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:06:31 PM

Another article here stated Sandy was causing the price of gasoline to drop
But I do not believe that, refinery shut downs etc will cause gas price to go up at least briefly in the Northeast

[Edited by: txkrb at 10/31/2012 11:08:04 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:04:33 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:04:29 PM

It is price gouging. They should have back up generators.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:56:51 PM

get it done
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:56:00 PM

TIME!
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:52:20 PM

dhan for help
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:50:40 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:47:36 PM

:(
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:45:36 PM

omygawd-less profit. I guess we have to raise prices.
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