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12 greenest cars of 2012

CNN Money -- The American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy has released its list of the most environmentally friendly cars of 2012, but there's one glaring omission.

Mitsubishi i

Fuel ecomony: 126 city / 99 hwy MPGe
Price: $29,125 - $31,125

Mitsubishi's very light lithium-ion powered electric car is the "greenest" car on sale in America today, according to the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy, a Washington D.C.-based non-profit group. The i-MiEV, also known as the i, is powered by a 66 horsepower electric motor.

One car you won't see anywhere on this list is the Chevrolet Volt. That's because the ACEEE uses vehicle weight as a criterion for scoring, under the assumption that a heavier vehicle causes more waste in production.

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Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,138 Points:1,068,510 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:53:58 AM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse Not really interested in any of them.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,532 Points:883,250 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:35:26 PM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse That Mitsubishi, is it a car or a golf cart? Or maybe I've seen it driving around in airports...
bigmoo63 All-Star Author Kalamazoo Posts:885 Points:56,680 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 8:23:40 PM Ignore bigmoo63 Report Abuse 12 greenest cars? A green Impala....and you can come up with another 11.
eric_tdi Sophomore Author San Jose Posts:246 Points:138,780 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 2:53:12 PM Ignore eric_tdi Report Abuse I would not what to be caught Dead in one of these
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,252 Points:681,040 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 2:18:39 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse I just might get something from that list.
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:6,664 Points:1,266,620 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 2:11:54 PM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse What are the 12 reddest cars?
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:17,391 Points:2,011,270 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 12:56:58 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse without big government subsidies they are all doomed to failure...omg 2012
carnifolks Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:354 Points:352,385 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 12:46:27 PM Ignore carnifolks Report Abuse thanks orphan. more interesting than the article
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:2,194 Points:422,430 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 11:29:46 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse A few things-- 1) not much electricity to speak of is made from oil anymore. The nearest city has an oil-fired municipal power station--but they only use that for extreme dire emergencies--they found it a LOT cheaper to put up 4 huge windmills ($30million) than to run it on oil on a regular basis. On an island, the undersea cables have a finite transmission limit, and local wind power is also cheaper than imported coal etc fired power when you factor in the $$$$ for additional cable capacity. 2) diesels--even VW TDIs--deliver great mileage in real life. I have 3 diesel wagons--2 are VWs, one a bit more exotic. Just got back from a 2000 trip...one day up, one day back, a week driving stop and go in heavy traffic in between. The wagon got a real life 38+ US mpg in city/cold snowy weather, and 44+ US mpg on the highway, driving fast and hard. I've done that particular trip a hundred times or more, and it cost less than $200 in diesel. The Jeep took $600+ in gasoline, the Subaru Forester $450, the Corolla $300+. Even with diesel being more expensive than gasoline. Truth. Which is why I don't drive a gasoline vehicle anymore for long trips--just too expensive when you put a lot of miles on like I do. 3) Generally, for comparing similar (not identical) types of vehicles, the distance you can cover for $5 in gasoline will cost $3.50 in diesel, and $0.80-0.90 in electricity, if your rates are averaging somewhere in the 7-8 cents a kilowatt hour. So the full electrics (Nissan and Mitsubishi) the "plug in" extended range on electric-only gasoline-electric hybrids (Volt and a new Prius model) can be very cheap to run in real life. So, for the 60+ miles (electric only) 30+ miles (ER hybrid), your driving is VERY inexpensive. If you can plug in even to a 110V where you go for the day, and the longer charge overnight, you can extend that daily range somewhat further. There is a big difference from driving until the batteries are flat and recharging, and recharging on a partial charge. Charging up when there is still juice left lowers the time for a charge, even if isn't a full charge. With an extended range hybrid like a Volt, when you run out of battery, you just continue driving using gasoline. A Volt can go 1500 miles non-stop--you'll just burn more gasoline is all, and its not as efficient on gasoline as it is on electric. You can't run out in a Volt unless you are a dummy and forget to fill the gas tank too. 5) Because people think electricity is 'expensive', they just do not understand how incredibly cheap an electric is to run. Given the right parameters, you pay back the extra cost easily within the car's lifetime. Its not an overnight saving, and its pointless if you change cars every 2-3 years, but if you keep it for about 6 or more, the math works out ESPECIALLY with all the endless fuel engined car servicing on engine, transmission, exhaust, cat converters, etc that has to be done. Electrics, or majorly electrics--cost a small fraction in servicing costs. It really adds up over several years. Besides all that, direct electric traction is way more efficient than transmissions/differentials. If that weren't so, train locomotives (note--diesel generators-electric traction) would have a 30 speed transmission, automatic or manual. Think about it... 6) For me, a full electric just isn't feasible. A hybrid of the traditional Prius type excels in urban-suburban driving, but I live in deep country and I'd be at the wrong end of gas engine usage for best economy. So, in my case, a diesel works best for me as my city driving is less than 5% of my total miles.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:13,274 Points:2,314,195 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:47:54 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse That, I find, is interesting. The old bomber builder is rising to the top!
graceman Champion Author Baltimore Posts:3,751 Points:917,820 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:41:14 AM Ignore graceman Report Abuse How far between charges?
BobBG Veteran Author Albany Posts:447 Points:581,700 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:35:21 AM Ignore BobBG Report Abuse Interesting. I wonder where the Hyundai Elantra rated?
kx250 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,426 Points:771,925 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:21:04 AM Ignore kx250 Report Abuse yawn.... next, green non-news story
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,853 Points:90,770 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:20:46 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Keep the prices below $20,000 and people will buy them.
mossimo36 All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:644 Points:135,775 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:20:05 AM Ignore mossimo36 Report Abuse Interesting list of cars
glorioussnookie Champion Author Tennessee Posts:3,418 Points:596,655 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:16:19 AM Ignore glorioussnookie Report Abuse VanHalen I agree with you 100%!!!! Excellent comment!
justme888CA Sophomore Author California Posts:203 Points:142,150 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:04:45 AM Ignore justme888CA Report Abuse The mileage sounds great, but the cost would stop me.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,831 Points:512,150 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:00:55 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse Van_Halen - Well stated!!!
gasrat6083 Champion Author Long Island Posts:1,694 Points:839,105 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:50:41 AM Ignore gasrat6083 Report Abuse Are those fuel economy numbers halfway realistic?
dal1 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,161 Points:139,165 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:45:29 AM Ignore dal1 Report Abuse I get this car paid off & I am done with payments so one of these is not in my future!
SachiCat Rookie Author Tacoma Posts:65 Points:431,625 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:41:20 AM Ignore SachiCat Report Abuse Maybe the price of Mitsubishi i will do in the future.
yardslave All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:710 Points:237,170 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:37:55 AM Ignore yardslave Report Abuse Start talking about total cost of ownership....
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,671 Points:333,320 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:34:17 AM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . There is No SUCH THING as a "Green" car. All vehicles pollute, whether directly or indirectly. EVs only displace their pollution to where the electricity is produced and then when their batteries are done become the world's worse polluters.
Rockyguitar All-Star Author Tampa Posts:851 Points:874,445 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:25:34 AM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Go mits!
paulsond Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:145 Points:304,265 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:16:40 AM Ignore paulsond Report Abuse great article.
GingoutMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,674 Points:547,430 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:14:17 AM Ignore GingoutMD Report Abuse If the Toyota Camry Hybrid made the list, I'm curious why the Ford Fusion Hybrid did not. Is the car too heavy (similar to why the Chevy Volt was excluded)?
fowlcan All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:667 Points:341,390 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:12:27 AM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Green,Red,Blue or Black they will all financially put you on your back!
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