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Chu sees benefits of hydrogen fuel cells

Aiken Standard -- Local hydrogen advocates are encouraged by Secretary of Energy Steven Chu's change of heart about the benefits of hydrogen fuel cell technology.

Since his appointment in 2009, Chu has doubted the future of hydrogen and fuel cell technology and requested substantial cutbacks in the Department of Energy budget for hydrogen research, but he recently voiced support for the initiatives.

In a media interview with an industry news program last month, Chu admitted that, initially, he did not have much faith in hydrogen technology.

"Several things changed my mind. The most important thing that changed my mind was the fact that we now have natural gas in abundance... hydrogen is reformed from natural gas," Chu said in the June 22 interview with AutoLine Daily.

He also said the technology would..


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Submitted Jul 07, 2012 By: EZExit
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:59:51 AM

ed: and you think anyone else will be different inside the Beltway?
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 10:05:29 AM

I prefer the opinions of a class of 6th graders over Chu. He is a bought and paid for politician who will say whatever who is paying him wants said.

...this is part of Obuma's election song and dance routine for the weak minded.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 6:02:05 AM

whaboush, I'm sure you're much smarter than Chu.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 5:12:26 AM

How many homes have converted from oil furnaces to natural gas in the first half of this year?

That is a much smarter method to reduce the use of petroleum distillates.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 3:21:09 AM

Wow... high pressure H2... Where's my lighter??? Wait until one of these babies blows.
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 12:35:10 AM


Good points rx7racerca...NG at this time is the ticket!
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 11:04:21 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 10:22:42 PM

Doesn't matter what he thinks, he and the one will be gone soon.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 6:13:30 PM

I saw an article on "GasHole" in which a man created a vehicle that runs on hydrogen way back in the 50's and big oil bullied and threatened his life until he sold his invention to big oil, only to have the invention disappear and the man himself was forced to be silent about it.

And we all know that Steven Chu is not a very truthful person and loves to flip-flop now and then regarding his "points of view", the administrations interest in lower energy prices come to mind, in which he told us first that lower energy prices were not in the government's best interest, then flip-flopped his view ten days later, that he "no longer shared that point of view".

I trust Steven Chu about as much as I trust Obama, who lies on public television about almost everything, always blames others for all of his failures, and is about as transparent as muddy water.

[Edited by: eomc17 at 7/8/2012 6:15:25 PM EST]
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WHATEVER!!!!
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5kvdave
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 4:33:48 PM

???
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 4:27:59 PM

Natural gas is abundant now, But get enough cars & trucks on it and we will paying more than gas is today.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 2:13:04 PM

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NG is abundant.

Let's spend billions developing other, more-expensive-to-use stuff, shall we?

Oil is abundant.

Let's spend billions developing other, more-expensive-to-use stuff, shall we?
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 8:46:15 AM

But, does a fuel cell vehicle running on H2 from natural gas actually yield any net reduction in emissions of C02 vs burning natural gas in an internal combustion engine optimized for natural gas' higher octane rating? Internal combustion engines do translate much less of the energy of their fuel into vehicular motion than fuel cells do (generally about 35% at best, but higher compression, permitted by natural gas, would improve somewhat on that), but the creation of hydrogen from natural gas looses about 30% of the energy in the process, meaning hydrogen fuel cell cars are starting from a position of only 70% efficiencty to begin with, and since hydrogen can't be shipped in pipelines, distribution is less efficient as well. PEM fuel cells (very expensive, but suitable for automotive applications) are around 60% efficient.

It appears a fuel cell vehicle would still have higher net efficiency - but not by a lot, and not enough to justify the fact fuel cells cost many times what entire IC engine vehicles do - there can't be a hydrogen economy as anything but manufacturer pilot programs when the fuel cells cost six figures - and won't get cheaper with mass production, because the expense comes largely from precious metals used as catalysts - which will go up in price if demand grows to mass produce PEM fuel cells
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 7:53:29 AM

Nonsence.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 7:31:37 AM

Many think that conversion of home heating to natural gas from oil is better, leaving the petroleum distillates for use in vehicles.

By the way, the Gores and many other Dems made big money through oil companies.

[Edited by: Hobby001 at 7/8/2012 7:33:22 AM EST]
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Stop government subsidies.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 2:40:29 AM

Seems like it would be easier to just use NG in our vehicles, but that would really annoy the GOP base (big oil).
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:44:27 AM

repeat
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Will be awesome when presented to the masses
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:37:22 AM

News flash..."natural gas in abundance".
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:35:04 AM

Far Out :).
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Ok
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wow
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Ahh.... Politics
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:32:10 AM

Hydrogen fuel cells are the future, not tomorrow, but in good time if we support R&D.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:30:19 AM

Good
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:28:27 AM

Go alternative fuels...
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:27:12 AM

benefits if you have money to buy one.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:26:53 AM

A good alternative...
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:26:00 AM

cheaper alternatives never hurt
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:25:05 AM

I don't see the benefit of Chu.
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Ok
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:24:29 AM

Chu will be looking for a job in six months.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:22:51 AM

hydrogen is everywhere
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:21:16 AM

OK keep working on the technology.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:20:03 AM

I don't think Sec. Chu has a clue about anything.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:19:54 AM

Interesting article.
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One word: Hindenburg
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Just do it!
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:17:32 AM

buyer remorse here ??
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:17:30 AM

I think this article has Chu'ed on this long enough. Let's move on with some new stuff.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:16:34 AM

All talk.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:15:47 AM

hmmm
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That's what we need.
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Ok
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:14:13 AM

a clue?
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BS
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:14:09 AM

A place with all kinds of potential electricity, like Iceland, could easily produce pure hydrogen from water, but it doesn't compress well.
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Make them available to the public and we'll see which technology rules the day.
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