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Electrofuels Could be the Future for Biofuel Production

OIL Price -- Could US oil imports be replaced with a single set of facilities producing biofuels from CO2, salt water and low-cost natural gas? Subsidy free, cropland free, mandate free?

If you happen to be awakening from a four-year nap, or returning from a tour of the outer solar system, you may not have been made aware that US natural gas prices have plummeted, and are expected to remain at half the cost of petroleum, or less, for years to come.

Now, it is common knowledge that cheap natural gas can be used to generate cheap power, or that low-cost compressed natural gas that can power some specially outfitted trucks. Fewer people know that natural gas is a platform for producing ethanol – either through fermentation or catalytic conversion (typically via methanol) – and drop-in fuels using the me


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Submitted Aug 09, 2012 By: mastermariner
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 2:40:49 PM

Very good
1WI
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 1:22:14 PM

nice
Don20
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 12:02:58 PM

We have an over abundance of natural gas, so why not use it. The future should be put on Natural gas or Hydrogen. Both are plentifull. Or stay with Reg gas since we have a four thousand year know reserve, with N.and S Dakota Wyoming, and Alaska oil. www.usga.gov/new room/article.asp ID=1911
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 12:02:38 PM

Just release the nat gas cars and trucks while the price is low
RochBear
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:40:08 AM

interesting article, but it's still using fossil fuels (natural gas). We should not be using our Natural gas for transportation, since we NEED it for heating our houses.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:34:30 AM

wow, I had no idea!
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:33:17 AM

Go CNG.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:32:37 AM

Thank you, Mikesr11! My faith is New Yorkers has been restored!
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:31:14 AM

Time will tell.....
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:30:26 AM

this sounds like it might work.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:28:28 AM

NOTHING IS CHEAP - EXCEPT JOE BIDEN DONATING A TOTAL OF $300.00 TO CHARITY EVERY YEAR, BUT HE IS VERY QUICK TO SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY THAT IS NOT HIS.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:27:46 AM

"Subsidy free, cropland free, mandate free?"

doubt it
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:27:39 AM

Good for shale natural gas. My monthly bill just dropped from $120 a month to $80, but look what gasoline is doing.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:27:10 AM

The BIG problem is that the "cheap natural gas" is being produced by FRACKING!! And FRACKING is NOT good for the environment or the people who live near the wells or processing facilities. Just ask the people of Dish Texas about Fracking!
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:22:40 AM

Sounds interesting to me
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:22:07 AM

still talking ethanol though
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:21:37 AM

We will see
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:21:19 AM

No such thing as cheap power when greed sets in.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:20:58 AM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:20:49 AM

all innovations have to star...WD40 is named such because it was not the right formula as AA01...what would we do w/o WD40?
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:17:38 AM

Says who
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wait to see
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:13:58 AM

Cool article - thanks for posting.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:54:10 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:49:51 AM

Butanol is a drop-in replacement for gasoline with similar energy density and much lower corrosive potential than ethanol or methanol. It does gel up at room temperature, but it can be diluted to keep it in liquid form. Maybe one day we'll even have alcohol-producing panels on our roof tops (underneath our solar panels). No more need to go to the gas station.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:31:07 AM

nice if it can be scaled up.
independence from food crops.

of course, would have to toss out all existing engines
(like we did our TV's) to run on pure higher octane ethanols.

another advantage would be the better mileage obtained with
the higher compression engines running on high octanes.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:03:36 AM

NO..NO....NO......to ethanol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:50:36 AM

whatever
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:49:14 AM

lets hope biofuels go the way of the horse and buggy
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:48:39 AM

The author is correct in my case. I didn't know this. Interesting.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:48:10 AM

Speculation and dreaming again.
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