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Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

BBC News -- Turning air into liquid may offer a solution to one of the great challenges in engineering - how to store energy.

The Institution of Mechanical Engineers says liquid air can compete with batteries and hydrogen to store excess energy generated from renewables.


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Submitted Oct 02, 2012 By: Eugenian
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 5:45:11 AM

time will tell. It just might work.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:12:45 AM

I'm not so sure that liquid air can compete with other sources. Want to see more info on it.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:07:52 AM

I'm not so sure that liquid air can compete with other sources. Want to see more info on it.
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 6:32:48 AM

Sounds good, but will it cost effective.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:06:06 PM

hope, hope again...

go vote, if you want to sit jobless and hope and hope and hope...
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 11:19:26 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:38:27 AM

Let a hundred flowers bloom.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:28:58 AM

Has potential.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:27:04 AM

I agree with ambudriver!
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:25:41 AM

As indicated by this article, this type of storage is best applied to industrial complexes and could serve very effectively in reducing operational energy costs.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:24:16 AM

Time will tell how good it really is.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:23:36 AM

Quick - need to add a pic of President Skroob from "Spaceballs" with a can of Perri-Air.

http://alloveralbany.com/images/spaceballs_perri-air.jpg

/Going to check Fark
//brb
///slashies comes in threes

[Edited by: RoLleRKoaSTeR at 10/2/2012 10:24:18 AM EST]
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AmbuDriver
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:23:04 AM

Make it a reality and then come back and announce it. Or is it just another dream?
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:20:53 AM

Not very efficient - like ethanol more energy goes in than comes out.

Liquid nitrogen (the air is over 80% nitrogen) when poured out of a container just bubbles, not a lot of vapor pressure. Steam turbines need 500 pounds of pressure to inefficiently generate electricity. Pressures like 3000 pounds are efficient.

This is a science project with poor returns to try and justify intermittent wind power.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:18:56 AM

Lot of hot air in Barry's camp, convert it to something useful
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:17:27 AM

Air to liquid is called condensation, or rain. Someone stole the idea from mother nature.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:16:24 AM

we will fight for air pretty soon, lol
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:16:02 AM

Nothing in air is ready to go
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:15:45 AM

Ok.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:15:15 AM

We shall see how this technology plays out.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:14:58 AM

time will tell
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:14:00 AM

Is it cost effective?
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:13:34 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:10:50 AM

Sound good if it works!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:10:41 AM

Plenty of it
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I am waiting.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:09:22 AM


"The process, part-funded by the government ..."

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If it had been funded by this administration it would have gone bankrupt already.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:09:12 AM

How much energy will it take to liquify the air? Sounds as unrealistic as cold fusion...
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:08:52 AM

hope it works.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:08:51 AM

Kind-of like the air-car that tata motors was making.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:07:43 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:07:40 AM

New ideas every month but in the end most don't work out.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:06:18 AM

show me
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:05:41 AM

Less talk and

More action, by putting alternative ideas into production!
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:04:27 AM

Interesting!!!
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Let's see it happen.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:00:05 AM

That might be a viable solution in the future.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:58:42 AM

OK
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Cool, known use it!
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:57:48 AM

Nice theory, now let's see it work.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:57:44 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:55:49 AM

Far out.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:52:28 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:52:03 AM

ok??
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:51:59 AM

storage
good luck
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Every far fetched idea may be the next great thing. "If I asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have told me a faster horse." - Henry Ford
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:46:49 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:39:27 AM

25% efficient, theoretically can go up to 70%? Not very hopeful in my opinion.
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