bart_reed

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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 6:52:04 AM
Alchemy!
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after10

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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 12:11:49 AM
Best $200.000 that ive seen spent in ages.Makeing fuel out of one of the worst type of garbage thats overwelming this planet.Perfect ! Every major plastic manufacture should be forced to use one.And only be allowed to produce the same amount of plastic that they are able to recycle in this way.Why is this story not all over the front pages of the news?Maybe because it can be purchased for under a GAZZILION dollars.Or maybe someone dosent like the idea that this fuel might be an small allternative to other over priced fuels
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LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 11:23:17 PM
I agree Teafortwo....negative Nellies rarely bother to do any research!
Thanks for posting such an interesting article!
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teafortwo

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 7:30:25 PM
MAC48,
Usually when a GByte wants to learn more about a topic they will do their own google search. For whatever reason, you decided to just leave a negative comment? Your loss, because the Yukon Research Centre at Yukon College is doing some very interesting and progressive things .... for those with inquiring minds ;0}
FROM THE ARTICLE:
""I do believe it can pay for itself, but I also believe it takes care of a larger problem, which is the waste plastics, quite frankly, are getting thrown in the garbage. Now if we can close the loop on that, I think that's every recyclers' goal," said Pat McInroy, of P&M Recycling.
The machine will be here for the next two years. Over that period it will be monitored and tests done on the crude oil. McInroy will use the oil to heat his plant. He says it should work in any furnace that has an inside tank. After the test period the project will be reviewed to see if a bigger machine is warranted."
ANOTHER ARTICLE TODAY: Canadian University Testing Plastics-to-Fuel Machine
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MAC48

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 6:32:30 PM
As usual this article presents absolutely no facts about whether this process is economically justifiable which means that the installation at the university in Whitehouse is probably a small scale "test and development" effort. Venture capitalist would be fighting tooth and nail to acquire the rights to this process if they thought it could be a good bet one would think.
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skybiker

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 12:59:23 PM
Good Plan!!
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md11capt

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 12:37:30 PM
10 kilograms = About 22 pounds or a lot of milk bottles. 10 liters = 2.6 gals or about $12.
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sydb7

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 11:20:47 AM
This makes sense, after all the plastic CAME from oil!!
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shstew

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 11:01:41 AM
Good news
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mustangdaver

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:51:58 AM
This is not new. It was developed years ago.
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Nicoalbum

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:45:07 AM
Now we need less corn
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Darwin00

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:40:51 AM
I hope it isn't too good to be true.
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BigKart

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:40:37 AM
No info in the article about the economics of conversion. Where do they get the stuff they add to it? Is the latter just wind and solar? I think not!
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ModelWarships

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:17:33 AM
sounds like another government grant in the works.
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bkplenge

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:15:11 AM
Sounds like a great way to recycle.
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eschroth442

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:14:01 AM
this is grewat, we have way too much plastic garbage. Let's turn it back to oil
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Palantas

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 10:00:21 AM
Awesome.
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tomok

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:50:50 AM
There is so much plastic in landfills, IF the machine can do it cheaply and economically there could be an oil landfill mine. Reverse the process of making plastic and go back to the source. The machine comes from Japan and its inventor is in Whitehorse to over see the installation. Whitehorse is Not that big, much larger cities can use this process instead! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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derek84us

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:50:42 AM
now if they could only turn oil into affordable gas
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BillHeatherL

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:44:08 AM
good for Yukon College
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Cellsite

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:43:44 AM
May work, if and only if the cost of energy used in the process costs less than the price received from the finished product. That's not mentioned in the article.
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Chinto12

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:43:12 AM
That is useful recycling.
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rjoeh

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:42:14 AM
No surprise... oil is a base material for plastic. The bigger surprise to me is the comment that its the first in North America. Apparently the inventor has not pitched it much to this part of the world yet.
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ZEROMETER

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:41:54 AM
good
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SnickersDog

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:38:44 AM
Nice
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GetMaxCashBack

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:38:31 AM
Makes sense to process non-recyclable plastic. Remove excess waste from landfills and reduce reliance on foreign oil.
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zaq001

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:35:25 AM
cool. Reverse the process.
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rasprout

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:34:59 AM
Nice... Enough plastic to quench our thirst for a long time, and then keep landfills empty...
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Red7002011

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:33:48 AM
Really!
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CorvairHaven

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:33:13 AM
Full circle.
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DABEE1073

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:33:03 AM
GREAT IDEA. MAKE IT SO.
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mysub

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:32:52 AM
Sounds like a good idea if it works.
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GGAlbo

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:31:03 AM
Plastic is made from Oil!
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Moran152

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:30:42 AM
Use oil to make plastic ~~~> use plastic to make oil ~~~~> refine oil to make gasoline ~~~~> use gasoline to power your vehicle.
~~~~> = energy loses
Seems something like ethanol, use a lot of energy to get a little.
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Hangnail309

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:30:24 AM
talk about reverse engineering ...
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DerTaubman

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:30:19 AM
Now someone will have to pick up all those plastic bottles.
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KarateDude

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:29:38 AM
Go back to glass...
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jd2009

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:28:52 AM
It's a good thing
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vizilo

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:28:34 AM
good idea
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LVNV6ofSpades

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:27:51 AM
If it works & its safe, good for them. Probably be using it alot when that island of tsunami trash & plastics wash ashore up there.
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Bus936

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:27:40 AM
Milk jugs alone could supply me with enough oil and gas.
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mitchells

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:57 AM
If we already recycle plastics back into more plastics (just like other metals), then why do we need a machine to recycle plastics all the way back tot he original oil base?
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pmc3

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:50 AM
Well...since plastics are made out of oil, then why wouldn't it be possible to change it BACK???
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gasman50

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:48 AM
Hope it works well for them
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NukeAtComEd

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:27 AM
it won't be allowed in the US because BarryO and the rest of the eco-nuts have declared war on any fossil fuels.
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FJCruiserCA

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:25 AM
ok
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putz247

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:18 AM
wow
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must87searcher

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:08 AM
This is an interesting idea. There is still a ways too go for testing if it were too be successful.
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olebufnav

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:26:03 AM
And I have this thing-a-ma-bob to attach to your fuel line to give you 200 mpg....
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goalie1950

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:25:52 AM
Kind of makes sense when you realize that certain plastics have oil as a component material. This machine looks like it reverses that process.
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