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Rep. Mike Doyle: ‘I Don’t Believe there’s a Lick of U.S. or Canada Steel’ in Keystone XL Pipeline

ThinkProgress -- In hearings to mark up Republican legislation to expedite the Keystone XL pipeline, Rep. Mike Doyle accused TransCanada of misleading the American public that the pipeline would be built with American steel.

Doyle submitted an amendment that challenged TransCanada to certify its claim that 75 percent of the pipe comes from North America. Discussing his amendment, Doyle expressed his frustration in attempts to get a straight answer from the company about where the steel for the 1700-mile pipe was made. Doyle found that Indian company Welspun Corp appears to be the pipeline supplier.

Doyle revealed he found that 148 miles of pipe have already been constructed in India and shipped to Welspun’s subsidiary Welspun Tubular in Little Rock, AR.

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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:26,094 Points:1,985,410 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 3:09:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Rep. Mike Doyle: ‘I Don’t Believe there’s a Lick of U.S. or Canada Steel’ in Keystone XL Pipeline. DUH! Steel and products from the cheapest sources possible! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
Krykson All-Star Author Chicago Posts:840 Points:247,185 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 2:45:56 AM Ignore Krykson Report Abuse Interesting
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,247 Points:1,087,250 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:35:58 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Is there any steel made in the US anymore? Over the last 30 years, US manufacturing has been gutted and sent to China.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,049 Points:1,274,185 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:13:26 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse Hopefully "Where's the Steel?" shall be an icon like "Where's the Beef?". Wake up backwoods boys. How can you be so readily deceived by Big Oil and this horrendous scheme that just sends Alberta crude to the highest bidder in China or India? How about a bridge in Brooklyn next?
SkyWarnTX All-Star Author Texas Posts:945 Points:56,845 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:30:46 PM Ignore SkyWarnTX Report Abuse Republicans are MASTER MANIPULATORS... because their followers allow them to be... CURRENTLY the U.S. Exports 117 million gallons per day of Refined GASOLINE... ... GOD BLESS the INDEPENDENT VOTER... It has been shown that the CONSERVATIVE ELECTORATE are not the SHARPEST of AMERICANS... http://tinyurl.com/76mdlng The more MISINFORMATION Conservatives receive from their Republican Party Operatives... the more they believe the misinformation, even after correction... http://tinyurl.com/7c6rrx5 Great Depression, Herbert Hoover... ...Great Recession 2007, George W. Bush... ...Poor George, he couldn't help it... ...Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.... ... The REPUBLICANS are MASTER MANIPULATORS... STATES RIGHTS, The CONFEDERACY, TRENT LOTT, STROM THURMOND ...Even FOREST GUMP could see through the Manipulation... Carl Rove never went to College… George W. got D’s … consider the source. It has been shown that the CONSERVATIVE ELECTORATE are not the SHARPEST of AMERICANS... http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html The more MISINFORMATION Conservatives receive from their Republican Party Operatives... the more they believe the misinformation, even after correction... http://gma.yahoo.com/why-people-believe-misinformation-even-corrected-162943705--abc-news.html - ..."Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."- Albert Einstein [Edited by: SkyWarnTX at 2/9/2012 8:31:51 PM EST]
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:4,264 Points:1,310,320 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:20:08 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse There is a lot of the steel pipe used in the US that is imported. This isn't new.
glorioussnookie Champion Author Tennessee Posts:3,418 Points:596,655 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 4:59:45 PM Ignore glorioussnookie Report Abuse Martinman I love your comments, they are right on the money!
Galmar352 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,026 Points:1,847,960 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 3:22:41 PM Ignore Galmar352 Report Abuse ANYTHING that will help them keep the pipeline away...
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:12,522 Points:1,741,020 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:53:54 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Just wait until QuikTrip gets established there, and begins to spike your gas/diesel prices 20- to 30-cents per week. Then we'll see how true you are to your political blindness. [Edited by: Martinman at 2/9/2012 1:56:13 PM EST]
Algernon Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,086 Points:757,160 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:52:22 PM Ignore Algernon Report Abuse Vote Obama out in 2012!!!!!!!
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:12,522 Points:1,741,020 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:51:00 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Does it matter? Apparently the parrot mouth-pieces below totally miss the point, or more likely they're simply ignoring it. It isn't just about "where" the steel pipe came from. It isn't just about "who" did or didn't manufacter the steel pipe. It isn't just about philosophical differences on whether the pipeline should or shouldn't be built. So, what is it about? It's about being LIED TO. It's about being DELIBERATELY DECEIVED. If they'll so blatantly claim they will use American steel when they had no such intention; if they're so arrogant to believe that people wouldn't care if they find out - what trust have they earned for being truthful about ANYTHING ELSE that TransCanada, Harper, or Republicans have stated, claimed, pledged, or promised, in their concerted efforts to ram the project through? Could it be that maybe they're afraid the Canadian citizens would not approve of "their" natural resources being sold-off, solely to the benefit only those few corporations involved? Could it be that the American citizens would not approved of basically being prostituted for "their" refining capacity while other promises are made with no intention of being kept, again solely to the benefit only those few corporations involved? .
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:12,522 Points:1,741,020 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:14:11 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse "The US doesn't make much steel anymore." . You obviously don't have a clue... If the U.S. were to "compete" solely based on wages, it would make minimum wage and Welfare look good to 90% of Americans, when compared to what they'd be "allowed" to make. The factory labor rate is less than 59-CENTS PER HOUR in China. Don't have any figures on India, but I'm sure it's nothing to write home about: China tops India on average pay
matthwbar Champion Author Toledo Posts:2,425 Points:666,140 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:10:57 PM Ignore matthwbar Report Abuse LoL...does it matter? There's no pipeline...
Jebeahm All-Star Author Maryland Posts:589 Points:227,140 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:05:50 PM Ignore Jebeahm Report Abuse The Rep. is right!
Dr Gas Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,659 Points:315,800 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:41:35 PM Ignore Dr Gas Report Abuse The US doesn't make much steel anymore. We IMPORT it from CHEAPER places. This is just the guys way of saying he doens't back the pipline! Very political of him, oh, he is a politican!
bbthegun Champion Author San Diego Posts:4,883 Points:1,359,615 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:19:00 AM Ignore bbthegun Report Abuse bodu - preach it!
bodu All-Star Author Vancouver Posts:596 Points:200,440 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:03:23 AM Ignore bodu Report Abuse "Maybe American steel is too expensive. " Too true. Now how should the steel industry respond? Just pout? DO something about it. Don't ask for a bailout or allow whining unions cuckhold you. Compete gagdangit. US was built on capitalism and competition. Pull ur socks and grow a pair. [Edited by: bodu at 2/9/2012 11:05:51 AM EST]
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:7,840 Points:2,259,970 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:02:26 AM Ignore Don20 Report Abuse Doyle revealed he found that 148 miles of pipe have already been constructed in India and shipped to Welspun’s subsidiary Welspun Tubular in Little Rock, AR. This is what you get when unions get their nose into private business.
Rajah Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,867 Points:2,042,705 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:59:46 AM Ignore Rajah Report Abuse Maybe American steel is too expensive.
Jeepergeo Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:1,154 Points:359,055 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:55:33 AM Ignore Jeepergeo Report Abuse Construction and installation are the key areas of focus for the U.S. The steel is big, but only a piece of the pie.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:4,283 Points:1,361,655 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:52:49 AM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse The problem is that the regulatory agencies, such as OSHA and the EPA of the United States have made it prohibitive to manufacture in this country. Some of this is necessary but some are rediculous to the point of making companies to look offshore for their products that were previously manufactured here. Some of the union agreements that have been made have had a negative effect on the domestic manufacturing economy, also.
Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:5,439 Points:1,157,085 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:51:57 AM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse American steel should be used for this pipeline.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:9,123 Points:1,518,780 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:50:19 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse Why make it out of steel in the first place. Steel rusts out. With modern plastics, it should be a plastic pipe. One that won't rot out for over 500 years!
paulp24 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,883 Points:470,700 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:49:17 AM Ignore paulp24 Report Abuse Good stuff
deaconjones All-Star Author Cleveland Posts:642 Points:246,190 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:49:02 AM Ignore deaconjones Report Abuse GOOD POINT.....IF WE HAVE US STEEL THEN WE SHOULD USE IT....NOT STEEL FROM SOME NATION WE ALREADY SENT FOREIGN AID TO....
NashGas Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,326 Points:482,970 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:47:06 AM Ignore NashGas Report Abuse Why does this guy want to impose quotas on us?
Rans35PG Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,183 Points:672,280 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:46:36 AM Ignore Rans35PG Report Abuse mike doyle is a boob
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,317 Points:1,272,235 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:44:26 AM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse What a joke - American Steel? There isn't any major US steel producer that isn't foriegn owned. [Edited by: Wizrd03 at 2/9/2012 10:47:59 AM EST]
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,169 Points:1,456,055 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:44:16 AM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse Yes "Edpap" and unions own the White House, not the AMERICAN PEOPLE!
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:7,176 Points:2,012,225 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:44:02 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Another hidden ripoff from this dumb project.
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,821 Points:411,475 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:43:17 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse What is the state of the US steel industry?
YaBassa All-Star Author Michigan Posts:604 Points:156,785 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:42:40 AM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse All the Repugnant Representatives want is this project done so they can collect their kick back from Big Oil. They don't care if the cheap steel imported from India leaks or not, all they can think is "Git-R-Done"
dlzastera Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,687 Points:663,245 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:42:15 AM Ignore dlzastera Report Abuse Build it with want you want. But when the piepline crosses into us land it should built with america steel.
Edpap Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,579 Points:152,250 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:41:08 AM Ignore Edpap Report Abuse Why wasn't this information made public earlier? Who is holding back? Don't the unions have access to the media?
techque Champion Author St. Louis Posts:6,895 Points:2,092,825 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:40:00 AM Ignore techque Report Abuse Democratic representative from the great state of Pennsylvania and Steel Town, USA.
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:5,741 Points:1,252,250 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:39:52 AM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse Doyle is right, we need to buy/ use American steel.
buzzieNY Champion Author Buffalo Posts:1,101 Points:280,765 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:39:09 AM Ignore buzzieNY Report Abuse If they do build the Pipeline, American Made Steel should be in the Contract.. ........... Buy American Made Products, And Keep America Growing..........
peapaw Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,988 Points:330,620 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:38:29 AM Ignore peapaw Report Abuse At this point it doesn't matter.
rippertoo Champion Author Tacoma Posts:3,941 Points:784,435 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:38:02 AM Ignore rippertoo Report Abuse That's not a surprise.
TANGOTANGO All-Star Author Toronto Posts:506 Points:211,775 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:37:55 AM Ignore TANGOTANGO Report Abuse Why does this surprise us at all. Buy American? Screw American for the almighty dollar!
Roysilver Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,078 Points:1,314,940 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:37:05 AM Ignore Roysilver Report Abuse Good Job Mr. Doyle
Manuel Lope Veteran Author Tallahassee Posts:387 Points:240,415 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:37:02 AM Ignore Manuel Lope Report Abuse He's going to lick the pipeline?
1cheapgasin Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,675 Points:850,190 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:36:38 AM Ignore 1cheapgasin Report Abuse Does our own government hate American workers????
Bullseye520 All-Star Author Louisville Posts:592 Points:332,475 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:36:16 AM Ignore Bullseye520 Report Abuse There are a lot of answers needed here.
yeehaw1073 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,255 Points:1,523,255 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:35:12 AM Ignore yeehaw1073 Report Abuse interesting...
jd4230 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,580 Points:711,940 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:33:59 AM Ignore jd4230 Report Abuse Buy American and keep our jobs and our money here
Red7002011 Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,522 Points:311,015 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:32:58 AM Ignore Red7002011 Report Abuse Really!
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:6,921 Points:1,416,825 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:32:12 AM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse Probably North American steel that was shipped to india... OUTSOURCING, y'know.
amayne11 All-Star Author Vancouver Posts:525 Points:152,850 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:32:09 AM Ignore amayne11 Report Abuse I would prefer that the steel pipe was made in North America.
TAT36 Champion Author Florida Posts:4,975 Points:950,505 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:31:44 AM Ignore TAT36 Report Abuse Number43 - said "I didn't know we even made steel anymore." It is probably like tires the machinery will be riding around on, American name not made here.